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  • BrainwreckedTech 2:02 am on May 31, 2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , atheros, atl1c, c665d-s5518, , , ifcfg, laptop, , netcfg, networking, networkmanager, , realtek, rtl8192ce, satellite, , toshiba, , wireless   

    Linux And Flaky ATL1C Support 

    Linux Logo Here’s something I thought I’d never see — the day that wired networking in Linux could ever be considered anything less than “it just works.”

    I recently purchased a laptop (Toshiba Satellite C655D-S5518 to be precise) and had trouble out of the gate after installing Arch Linux.Ā  The computer would seem to hang whenever the network was involved.Ā  (E.g., running netcfg, networkmanager, or the ip command.)Ā  I assumed that it was wireless support that was causing the headaches, so I ran hwinfo --netcard | grep "Modules\|File" to find the kernel modules related to my networking devices.

    Device Modules: "atl1c"
    Device File: eth0
    Driver Modules: "rtl8192ce"
    Device File: wlan0

    I blacklisted rtl8192ce but that didn’t solve my problem.Ā  (More …)

     
    • Jesse Robinson 5:18 am on June 14, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I had exactly the same problem with atl1c it caused the console to freeze when the cable was unpluged,do you know the maintainer of this driver,so we can file a bug report,the problem is worse with a 3.4 kernel.
      Linux Jesse 3.4.0 #2 SMP Wed May 30 09:01:55 EST 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

      I really need to upgrade my kernel before submitting a bug,but scanning round it seems the bug is still there as of current kernel release.

      • BrainwreckedTech 9:55 am on June 14, 2012 Permalink | Reply

        Unfortunately I do not. Which also means I do not know how much work is going into the driver. If there’s a dedicated team, then they just need time. If it’s a single person, he could probably use some help even it’s nothing more than yet another environment in which to see how the driver code behaves. Just be prepared that this might entail setting up a debug environment (e.g. compiling and using a kernel that spits out debug symbols, etc.). If you can code, all the better. šŸ™‚

        Either way, as the driver is listed as EXPERIMENTAL, it’ll do no good to file normal bug reports as the people behind this driver already know that it is not 100%.

    • GreyGeek 8:47 am on August 12, 2013 Permalink | Reply

      As of Aug 12, 2013 this atl1c bug is affecting my Acer V3-771G laptop running Kubuntu 12.04.2 with all updates. On my system it shows up as a random disconnect and reconnect. Most of the time the reconnect is almost immediately, but sometimes it may take as much as 30 seconds. I switched from NetworkManager to WICD and the problem remains, but perhaps not as frequent. From once every 5 minutes to once every 10 minutes. There is NO messages indicating the disconnect & reconnect in any system log.
      I am using the 3.8.0-27-generic kernel.

  • BrainwreckedTech 4:10 am on November 4, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: driver, , , mtu, networking, nic,   

    WARNING: Your NIC (or Driver) Might Lie About MTU 

    This is one for the ages. I had two problems creep in at once. The first was shoddy NFS performance. I Googled my way across the internet for troubleshooting and performance tips. However, nothing seemed to improve the situation. While that was going on, I noticed the second problem — one of the hard drives was failing its own SMART test.

    I was already up late, and the last thing I wanted to be bothered with was finding out which drive it was, going the manufacturer’s site to download their drive diagnostic boot CD, getting the warranty return code, and starting the RMA process. But I hung in there and pulled through.

    After some sleep, I tried tinkering with a few more networking settings. I was still coming up with nothing, so I ordered a Cat6 cross-over cable so I could at least rule either way on the cabling and network switch.

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  • BrainwreckedTech 3:24 am on May 20, 2009 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , gigabit ethernet, , , , networking, ,   

    HOWTO: Optimize Gigabit Networking in Linux 

    Ethernet Cable FullLinux Logo Half Even if you have a gigabit networking adapter and a gigabit switch capable of jumbo frames, Linux still uses the default MTU size of 1500. To get something better, you need to configure things by hand.

    The reason for this is that the IETF has never standardized anything above 1500. You might very well have gigabit ethernet equipment that either does not have jumbo frame support, or may be very disappointed to find out that “jumbo frame” can be used to describe any packet size between 1500 and 9000.

    To make matters worse, not every gigabit ethernet switch handles mixed networking the same. You would think a gigabit switch would guarantee a 1gb connection between two computers with 1gb networking adapters, but under various circumstances, this isn’t always the case. Optimally, it would be best to separate your 100mb and 1gb devices onto two different switches, but this isn’t guaranteed to work.

    Now that we have all the caveats out of the way, read on if you want to start optimizing.

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    • strange 4:52 pm on June 11, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      why do the MTU’s have to match? a workstation accessing the internet will have several devices between it and the internet, a linksys router running linux being a common one, and it will be a much lower MTU.

      the lowest common denominator will be all the gear out at the boundaries, which all the machines and servers will likely have to talk to at some point. so what do you do then?

      • brainwreckedtech 11:11 pm on June 12, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        The MTUs don’t have to match unless you enjoy having your LAN speed crippled as your computers break apart packets on their own trying to reach a common denominator. While the advice here is for optimizing the speed that computers communicate on a LAN, not the Internet, keep in mind that computers with bigger MTUs will have no trouble accepting smaller packets from computers with smaller MTUs. Your Internet download speeds won’t be affected, but your upload speeds might. However, most people’s Internet connection speed (in the US, at least) doesn’t even hit 1mb/s upstream. Factor that measly speed with all the latency due to routing, server capacity, etc., and the upload speed degradation from mismatched MTUs with the Internet becomes the least of your problems.

        By no means should you adjust the MTU of a machine on your LAN if its sole purpose to upload data to the billions of anonymous users on the net. At the same time, you should consider getting that machine off your private network in the event a security breach. A simple double-NAT will do.

    • BlueSherpa 2:17 pm on February 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Corrections:

      The “theoretical” limit of gigabit, also known as the wire speed, is 125MB/s (wikipedia, 2010).

      “one can only get a little over one-third of the theoretical limit of gigabit” is not true. 900Mb/s can be attained at the normal 1500 byte MTU setting (Schluting, 2007).

      Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabit_Ethernet

      Schulting http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/nethub/article.php/3485486

      • brainwreckedtech 4:33 pm on February 8, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        125mB/s (m being read the decimal “mega” of 1000) was never in dispute, but I did botch my original 101MB/s (M being read as the computer “mega” of 1024). The correct calculation is 1,000,000,000 bits ÷ 8 bits/byte ÷ 1024 bytes/kilobyte ÷ 1024 kilobytes/megabyte = 119.21MB/s.

        I’ll recant my “never,” but Schulting used server-class hardware and mem-to-mem copying. Consumers are going to be hard-pressed to find such equipment and are more apt re-use old equipment and go by drive-to-drive copying over Ethernet. Following his advice gave my speed a bump to an average of 43MB/s with the range anywhere from 36MB/s to 50MB/s. Nice, but far short of 119 MB/s.

        • august 8:39 pm on February 10, 2010 Permalink | Reply

          In networking, “mega” was always the proper “mega” – 1000000.

          The only thing that really ever used the 2^10 thing was memory sizes, because they naturally come in powers of 2.
          (And please use the proper prefixes (MiB etc) if you’re going to use the binary variant.)

          So 125MB/s is the right number.

          Also, if you’re doing drive-to-drive copying, you’re probably measuring the speed of your disk, and not the ethernet.

          • brainwreckedtech 4:37 am on February 11, 2010 Permalink | Reply

            Now you’re just picking nits.

            210 is used for all storage sizes, not just memory.

            125mB/s is a correct number. So is 119MB/s when that number is the theoretical ceiling that will be reported by any OS transferring a file.

            I’ve seen MiB, and guess what? Fuck it. Using M for 220 and Mi for million is great, but what do you do for the giga level? Do they use G for 230 and Tr for trillion? NO, THEY USE Gi FOR TRILLION. And you can’t go back and say Gi = decimal giga because, if that was their intent, they should have used Me for decimal mega. So you can try and use that system if you want. I see no harm in using caps for bigger values and lowercase for smaller values because — at least to me — it makes sense and can be made consistent.

            Finally, where do you think the data is coming from that’s being served over Ethernet? The config I’m using is two 250GB Samsung SP2504C drives in software RAID 0 in a file server. These drives have been rated for an average random reads and writes around 45MB/s. RAID 0 absolutely can double the average speed of random reads and writes, so that gives me a ceiling of 90MB/s. There is negligible, if any, difference between Linux software RAID and hardware RAID. I was only getting 50MB/s tops, so it wasn’t the hard drives. The NICs are on-board, so it isn’t the PCI bus. And even if it was, it was still below the 78MB/s limit of 33MHz PCI.

            • ah 6:35 am on March 12, 2014 Permalink | Reply

              when I test, I dont copy data from and to actual disk drives, I use dd to copy /dev/zero over the network to /dev/null at the other end, which cuts out the disk drive completely. Do you not use this method?

              • BrainwreckedTech 4:02 am on March 19, 2014 Permalink | Reply

                Not a bad idea, but shortcuts (large stream of only 0’s) can be taken at the kernel level. Better to take an ISO (or file created with /dev/urandom) inside a tmpfs and copy that.

    • Darr247 12:02 pm on December 16, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Youā€™ve got it backwards, so no wonder you think itā€™s a bad idea. šŸ˜‰

      M=10^6; Mi=2^20

      The idea is, hard drive manufacturers used (some would argue ā€œcorrectlyā€) the SI version of mega (ergo influenced what peoplesā€™ idea of MB should be on computers) to mean 1,000,000 bytes, so back at the turn of the century the IEC designated MiB to mean 1,048,576 bytes.

      Itā€™s pronounced mebibytes, short for mega binary bytes.

      Likewise,
      G = 10^9; Gi = 2^30 (giga/giba)
      T = 10^12; Ti = 2^40 (tera/tebi)
      et cetera (P/Pi, E/Ei, Z/Zi) up to
      Y = 10^24; Yi = 2^80 (yotta/yobi)

      I donā€™t know that SI has abbreviations for values greater than 10^24ā€¦ but when we get to 10^100 capacities, hard drive manufacturers will no doubt start using ā€œgooglebytesā€ thanks to the non-math guy who originally registered the domain name (instead of ā€œgoogolā€ which is what the search engineā€™s inventors intended).

      Implicitly, b=bits and B=bytes, also.

      Iā€™ve never seen anyone use G or Gi for trillion. Got a cite?

      Finally, thanks for the linux gigabit tuning tips.

    • BrainwreckedTech 6:07 am on December 26, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      You’re right about me being backwards on X and Xi.

      The hard drive manufacturers started using the decimal interpretation because it meant they could advertise bigger numbers. (Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity…or greed.) No one paid much mind back in the days of the kilobyte because the difference was small, and we’re used to a bit of fibbing from marketing departments. The excuse, “you lose some space due to formatting,” held enough truth to keep most users calm. I can’t recall exactly when the difference became a major ordeal, but fuzzy hindsight says it probably came with the introduction of the first gigabyte drives — kinda hard to chalk the drop from 1GB to 953MB to formatting.

      Tangent: Networking came after hard drives. They took a page from hard drive manufacturer’s play book and took it a step further by never graduating beyond bits.

      You can see Gi in use in Gnome and KDE. Besides, by definition, it is one trillion. 1,000,000,000 or 1,073,741,824 depending on which definition.

    • Pyrrhic 1:26 pm on February 23, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you for posting this I had a SIOC… etc error, your post allowed me to fix this. The MTU discussion is also very, very useful. Again…thanks!

      Best,

      P.

    • Markus Torstensson 6:19 am on June 23, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks dude šŸ˜€ Works like a charm. Kinda shame about the prefix-flamewar you had to put up with.

  • BrainwreckedTech 8:49 pm on May 25, 2008 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , netgear, networking,   

    Review: Netgear WGT624v3 

    I’ve used this router for years, and it’s performed dutifully until recently. With recent firmware updates however, two notable feature have stopped working correctly: listing devices that have opened ports using Universal Plug N Play (UPnP) and having the router detect and fetch firmware updates itself.

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    • ReallyVirtual 1:50 pm on September 8, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      *sigh*
      thanks for saving me the effort to look for an opensource firmware alternative for this POS router

    • Dassin 9:04 pm on October 15, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      It’s a shame they feel the need to block third party firmwares. I guess they’re worried about people messing up during the loading and rendering the router useless. And then the Bestbuy guy not knowing that the terms of the warranty have been violated would just process the return.

      I wouldn’t call it a POS though. Mine has done me right since 2005. Back then my old Linux firewall was having hw issues. Would have built a new one but had two weeks before leaving for Iraq. Spend time with the wife, or play at building a new Linux firewall. Hey, I might be a geek but I’m not a nerd šŸ˜›

  • BrainwreckedTech 6:26 pm on August 26, 2007 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , networking,   

    HOWTO: Hook Up A New Router 

    You’re probably asking yourself, “This guy complains about things like software RAID, Linux printer drivers, and PHP coding goofs. Why cover a simple topic like hooking up a router?” The answer is simple: I’m taking the router installation BACK. I’m taking it out of the hands of companies that treat their users like morons by including CDs that “do everything for them,” when really it just leaves them more in the dark about how their router works.

    In other words, two comments asking for help on their router centering around the installation CD was enough to drive me up a wall. šŸ™‚

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    • g 7:25 pm on December 1, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      worried about xmas morning – got xbox 360 worried about setting up router. wife said it took her 6 hours to get Wii to talk to it last year so worried this will be same or could lose that communication – am i better off just using 100ft ethernet cable and hard wiring?

    • brainwreckedtech 4:20 pm on December 4, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Even though the XBox 360 Wireless Ethernet Adapter has been praised for it’s good range and signal reception, it’s still a hundred freakin bucks, so yeah, you’re better off hard-wiring. Besides, it’s always good to keep an extra ethernet cable around — wireless networks aren’t exactly 100% stable.

    • jday 12:40 pm on December 25, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      >>3. Use the included Ethernet cable to hook a computer up directly to the router using one of the LAN ports.

      I only have one lan jack on my computer, to plug the router in, I have to unplug my modem. This is a problem.

    • brainwreckedtech 4:12 pm on December 25, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      No. You don’t plug both the router and the modem into the computer. You plug the router into the computer and the modem into the router. Then again, if you had bothered reading the instructions that came with the router, you’d know this.

    • Landon 8:02 pm on December 5, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I just purchased a White Macbook, it has wireless printing capabilities, but I found my mom’s old wireless router. Will we be able to use the same internet service even though she uses a PC and I have a Mac as long as I hook the router up correctly?

    • brainwreckedtech 4:14 am on December 6, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Yep. Routers are platform-agnostic. It doesn’t matter what you connect to your router as long as the computing device supports TCP/IP. I have computers running Linux, Windows, and Mac all accessing the same router.

    • Ted 11:42 pm on April 22, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Read your instructions, I have tried a straight through and a cross-over cable from the Toshiba pcx2600 Road Runner cable modem to this Belkin F5D7230-4 router and I still can’t get a WAN IP. The Modem and or Internet LED does not come on. However, I have no problem getting a 192.168.2.X IP.

      Any help would be appreciated.

      • BrainwreckedTech 7:36 am on April 23, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        All you need is a straight (non-cross-over) Ethernet cable hooked up between the cable modem and the router’s WAN port and a cable modem reset. However, your particular router is a piece of crap and might not work no matter how much you beg and plead it. I reviewed it here: http://wp.me/p2q9M-m

    • James 10:18 am on December 14, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      I got online at my son’s house in AL. When I returned home I cannot get online wireless. I was asked to put his router pin in and it seems to have changed my settings.

      • BrainwreckedTech 10:06 pm on December 14, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Router pin, as in 4- (or 5- or 6-, etc.) digit pin? Never heard of that, but Iā€™ve never had a modem/router combo that some ISPs give out. Thatā€™s the only place where I can think where that kind of pin would come into play.

        It sounds like a router reset is what happened. Good news is that if it IS a modem/router combo, chances are that you got that from your ISP and they can help you out with it.

      • BrainwreckedTech 12:59 am on December 28, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Just found out about WiFi Protected Setup thanks to a recent Slashdot article. That’s where the PIN came from, and the point of WPS is to auto-configure network setting. (Guess it’s apparent now that I’ve never had a router with this feature.) I would think that this configuration would be in a separate profile, but it sounds like either some settings are carrying over or maybe your router and your son’s use the same SSID thus confusing the computer software. Make sure you and your son use different SSIDs and configure the wireless settings on the computer accordingly for each network.

  • BrainwreckedTech 3:48 am on July 24, 2007 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , networking, ,   

    Avoiding UPnP with XBox Live? 

    XBox Live Logo In my little howto, HOWTO: Set Up A Segregated Network, I ended the article on a bit of a downer. UPnP is a one-stop thing. With a setup where your data is being sent through two routers, Universal Plug ‘n’ Play (UPnP) data only gets sent to the first one. Well, guess what? XBox Live communicates over port 3074 via TCP and UPD, and port 88 via UDP.

    Guess what you have to do to get XBox Live working?

    1. Give your XBox 360 a static IP address on the secure WAP/wired network.
    2. Give your secure WAP router a static IP address on the insecure WEP network.
    3. Set up the secure network’s router to forward the aforementioned ports to the IP address of your XBox 360.
    4. Set up the insecure network’s router to forward the aforementioned ports to the IP address of your secure router.

    Now, this doesn’t guarantee everything under the sun. I’m sure games are able to open more ports. But heck, the only problem I’ve had thus far without this solution was the occasional inability to hear certain people’s voice.

     
  • BrainwreckedTech 3:34 am on July 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , networking,   

    HOWNOTTO: Set Up A Segregated Home Network. 

    If you want to know why I call myself The Brainwrecked Tech, here’s a good example of why. While browsing the net for information in creating my last article, I came across the book Wireless Network Hacks & Mods For Dummies. Someone got paid to come up with this! For the For Dummies series, no less! And they got it wrong! And here I sit, getting paid zilch to tell you how to do it right.

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    • Gary Braden 8:15 am on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      So what is the detailed comprehensive solution to actucally get to the intended segreated setup? This is how I was going to set mine up:

      Modem >>>WAN PORT of LAN1 (192.168.1.1)
      LAN1 >>> WAN PORT of LAN2 (192.168.2.1)
      Turn off DHCP of LAN2 and set the static incoming ip address as 192.168.1.1

      done…

      is that close?

    • brainwreckedtech 2:59 pm on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

  • BrainwreckedTech 4:08 am on July 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , networking,   

    HOWTO: Set Up A Segregated Home Network. 

    So, you have a wireless network. You know a little about wireless security. You know WPA is stronger than WEP, so you set up your wireless network for WPA. But, you still have some Wi-Fi devices that can only use WEP. If you keep WPA, you’re SOL. If you downgrade to WEP, you’re going to be SOL in under 60 seconds if some evil-doer comes within range. You want two networks that can’t see each other, but you’re not sure how to pull that off.

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  • BrainwreckedTech 2:16 am on July 1, 2007 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: belkin, , , networking, ,   

    REVIEW: Belkin F5D7230-4 Wireless Router 

    BRAINWRECKED

    What should have been so simple turned into one of the most frustrating 60 minutes of my life. I bought this router because I wanted to set up a segregated network for WEP devices to hop on to my network and use the internet. You couldn’t pay me $40 to use this device, let alone have me pay $40.

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    • helper 3:46 pm on July 9, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Hi, I work for Belkin and I want to help facilitate a resolution to the issues you discuss above. I setup a version 7000 and was able to get the upnp feature to show as enabled and the feature did work. I have uploaded some screen shots:

      Shows feature disabled

      Shows feature enabled (note uPnP bubble notification)

      Shows version info

      Maybe we have a browser issue here? Can you share your browser info? I used IE7 for my testing.

      I would also like to work with you to work thru the disconnection issue.

      Please fillout the form at http://www.belkin.com/support/contact/email/technicalsupport/

      Just put “brainwrecked” in the part number field and I will pick it out and establish connact with you.

      Thanks for your feedback.

    • brainwreckedtech 3:28 am on July 10, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      OMG, the spelling errors! The grammar! Must…restrain…

      This is not a professional review blog. If it was I would have tried out a second copy of the router and given your tech support more time. Rather, this is a blog with reviews by a professional. You still get a knowledgeable review and the opportunity to respond, but in the end I have other issues to attend to. Sorry, but the router has already been returned and replaced with a Buffalo WHR-G54S.

      Eight days have passed since my post, another 6 passed between my experience with this router and the time I posted. That’s 14 days — do you hold on to non-working products this long? Also, your proof that it does work consists of one browser/OS combo, and pictures that could have been pulled from myriad hardware and software versions of the router. I will admit that if you did get everything working with the F5D7230-4 ver 7000 with firmware 9.01.05, that is how it would look. But the evidence provided is inconclusive.

      By the way, why aren’t people over here getting any love:
      http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16833314006

      As of this writing, 49% of your reviews here are 0-3 out of 5 stars Considering Newegg, this is not a good thing.

    • CODOG OMEGA 3:18 am on August 5, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Ha ha lol!, I have a problem with this Router too. I can’t get my Nintendo DS to register an IP address with this stupid ass Router. Nintendo says I have to ask Belkin for help…but their crappy ass (Tech Support) doesn’t help at all, and they seem to rush you off before you can get any help about anything. I don’t know what to do and I have sent them an e-mail asking about this problem

      response:

      We suggest you to collect the port number from the Nintendo vendor and forward the same on the router home page by following the steps given below to enter the port number :

      -Please open the Internet Explorer and in the address bar type in (I have my own IP) and Enter.
      -Leave the password blank and click on “submit”.
      -Click on “Virtual server” under the “Firewall”.
      -Enter the port number under “Inbound port” & “private port”.
      -Enter the IP address of this computer under the “Private IP address”.
      -Check the “Enable” box and click on “Apply changes”.

      ok! I don’t know what their talking about, most of this doesn’t even add up to my Router home page. I need help!, but everybody I ask…also needs help. So BRAINWRECKED can you please help me out?.

      my e-mail (codog_omega@yahoo.com)

    • brainwreckedtech 3:56 am on August 5, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Best suggestion: Get a new router and deal with a whole new company. Your DS not getting an IP address has nothing to do with forwarding ports.

      BTW, (I have my own IP) is the absolute WORST way of dealing with a variable. What I mean is, usually a tech would say:

      Please open the Internet Explorer and in the address bar type in 192.168.2.1 (or whatever IP you set your router to) and Enter.

      And leaving the password blank? Great fucking job. The default password on that router is admin. Or did he mean leave the username field blank? The router doesn’t use the username part of the security dialog box that pops up.

      And WTF is Belkin’s insistance on IE anyway?

      God, these people make my brain hurt.

    • Krikri 9:14 am on August 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Hi I dont know to who to write , anybody know where I could finde software for Belkin Wireless G Router f5d7230-4 Ver.6000fr , I had an instalation CD with it , but now I have to reinstal it and my Cd is scrach and I cant use it any more , any ide where to finde that ???
      krikril@hotmail.com
      Thanks
      kri

    • brainwreckedtech 3:04 pm on August 8, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Wait what? Are you serious? See, this is what I hate about companies that include install CDs for everything. Krikri, you don’t need the CD. It’s nothing more than a guided setup and perhaps some bloatware you don’t need. The router operates independently of your computer. Just re-install your OS, your drivers, and settings for your wireless card if you were using one, and everything should come back to life.

    • Michelle O 8:34 am on August 24, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Hi!

      I also have the Belkin Wireless G Router mentioned, just got it in fact and I am attempting to set it up.

      Everytime I go through the set up steps it gets to the end and then says,

      “Problems Communicating with Router” and suggests that I contact Customer Support.

      Which I did and guess what??!! They dont know what is going on either, they walked me through the same scenarios over and over and nothing happened. The IPCONFIG and PING routines over and over. Instructing me over and over to disable my firewalls when I KNOW that there are NO firewalls working on my PC right now.

      The router I have is F5D7230-4 ver 4001

      Everything is plugged in correctly, all the lights are working etc. Just wont work for whatever reason … any suggestions???????

      P.S.

      The only thing I noticed was the cord in my box was BLACK instead of BLUE, which the instructions very clearly describe as blue. Cord color can’t really make that much difference can it?

    • brainwreckedtech 4:54 am on August 27, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Cord color doesn’t matter.

      As this is the second post in which someone’s referred to a set up CD, I’ve written another HOWTO on my blog that shows you how to set up *any* router *sans CD*.

      If you have trouble following these directions, let me know! And if it doesn’t work, well, it *is* the Belkin F5D7230.

      HOWTO: Hook Up A New Router

    • Leo G. 8:51 am on August 28, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Right on with Belkin F5D7230-4 v7000!!!! I wasted couple hours trying to update a firmware on that router only to encounter the infamous “Incorrect user interface image” error message. Why I wanted to update the firmware? Because I needed an access point for XBOX 360. Google brought me to this article on Belkin’s own website: http://www.belkin.com/support/kb/kb.asp?a=2814
      The article explained how to enable the WDS on their F5D7230-4 router thusly making a dirt cheap access point ($40 in Staples). First, I tried to flash it with the firmware that the article pointed to – no dice. Out of curiousity, I decided to try any other firmwares published on Belkin’s web site – all of them would generate the same “Incorrect user interface image” error even after I reset the router to it’s factory defaults between uploads. I guess this router was released as complete “black box” that wouldn’t even allow firmware upgrade. Boo for Belkin – I never held them in high regard for their low quality components. This router proves that I was right!

    • person 1:22 pm on August 29, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I have the same router and a DS

      it said connection successful but I STILL couldn’t connect.

    • FlyingBoz 8:04 pm on August 31, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Issue: FD57230-4v1000; first PC to make a vpn connection is the ONLY one that can until the router is rebooted….

      After being disconnected or hung up on three times, finally made it to second level support (still, I think, in India.), who had great difficulty understanding that I was operating VPN clients, and port forwarding was NOT going to address my issue.

      I can understand that in a soho product one might be limited to a single vpn passthrough, but the failure to properly destroy one on disconnect such that another host can have a turn is a programming flaw.

      I was informed by the second level tech that this behavior was as designed, and that the firmware was not upgradable on my unit, despite the lovely “Check for firmware upgrade” prompt prominently displayed on the router’s main config page.

      I admit, I was intrigued by the sexy new N router, but if their support for existing product is so horrible, how can they possibly handle new equipment??

    • G2 8:39 pm on September 4, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      You think you got problems, my F5D7230-4 v7000 won’t successfully DHCP resolve the “WAN IP” address from my Surfboard cablemodem 9 out of 10 boots… time to throw it back at Walmart.

      Leo, the “Incorect user interface image” message is a cryptic way of saying “The firmware you are attempting to use is for a different version of this router.”

    • trojjer 12:24 pm on September 5, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Well I’m glad I have a fairly trusty old Linksys WRT54G running OpenWRT — despite the fact that the wireless signal strength seems to have decreased substantially with the open source firmware… Oh well, I rarely enable/use WiFi as my laptop’s a rather huge 2004 “desktop replacement” and I have plenty of free Cat-5 cables (who needs a Gigabit home LAN, seriously??? Okay, I could see why it would be worth it if I had a lot of stuff to share, but I don’t. And there’s rarely more than one simultaneous connection anyway… I still like having a router to mess around with though — I must have a masochistic streak because I love to complicate everything).

      Dad found one of these Belkins at work (v4000uk) — he’s a “refuse collector” so to speak… Anyway, the lights are on and it SEEMS that somethings’s at home, but ipconfig /renew won’t work as the DHCP requests time out. I’ve tried pinging and browsing to the default gateway IP, 192.168.2.1, to no avail.

      I can’t seem to press the reset button in and get it to successfully do a hard wipe (although it does look like I punctured it a bit with a safety pin — it was the only thing that was small enough at the time). Despite peeling the sticker back on the underside to deal with two annoying screws, the cover seems to be clipped quite strongly and I don’t want to crack it. Looking for modding tips with good pictures, though… I might as well try it, as I certainly have no warranty to void and I wasn’t afraid to open up my Linksys (which I paid Ā£69 for a few years ago).

      Sorry for the rambling. Looks like I’ve given up on the Belkin for now, as I’ve got a working router anyway and no use for a second one beyond the fact that it doesn’t seem as power hungry as the Linksys… Although maybe the problem has something to do with the fact that I’m using a surrogate multi-adapter with the Belkin, that has a quoted max output of 300mA, when the power socket on the router says 1.5A? As I said before though, the lights come on, and the modem one blinks in response to communication.

    • brainwreckedtech 10:52 pm on September 5, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I think you answered your own question: Only supplying 300mA to a device that requires 1.5A?
      You run the risk of frying components from under-current as much as you do over-current.

    • Xtopher Robin 7:38 pm on September 11, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I agree that Belkin is an ass for forcing the use of IE7 with no firewall, virus protection, or pop-up blocking, but it actually did work, oddly enough. Your site helped me fix something I’ve been fighting with for a month and a half!

    • bamie9l 2:56 am on September 15, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I bought one of these for my girlfriend and we’ve never been able to get it to work consistently. It always seems to die after a random (1-6 hours) amount of time, just sits there with its lights on but noone at home…

      Does anyone have any idea if there is a particular feature causing this problem I could disable like dhcp for instance? And whether another router vendor uses similar hardware so I could pinch/use their firmware?

    • Hiker 8:49 pm on October 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      The v7000 version of this router did not work for crap for me either. Tried to hook it up for a neighbor who is a law student and could not get it working with Comcast. I am a MCP and a A+ tech with 15 years experience and I spent over an hour fighting it. Came upstairs, grabbed an old DLink 614+ B router I had laying around and had her set up in just a few minutes.

      I had a Belkin Pre-N router for a while and while range was great it never did work all that well. I went through 4 of them from their tech support and still have the last one sitting in the box unopened. They never asked me to send the old ones back, and amazingly, one of them worked in AP mode for a year without a reboot for an old friend after requiring daily reboots for the last 3 weeks I used it. Belkin seems to have real quality issues with their stuff.

    • Mazinger 1:43 am on November 7, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Well I had the same UPnP problem and when searching Google I found this page. The thing is that when trying to enable UPnP I would get a “Server not found” and the change will not get saved. The second post in your comments suggested to use IE to make the changes and it worked since I was trying to make the changes using Firefox.

      So, tried with IE and the UPnP was enabled. I turned on Azureus and all the faces were green and smiling :D!

      I’m with Road Runner cable internet, use this Belkin F5D7230-4 Wireless G Router and I use it to connect my Xbox 360 (you must allow DMZ. No Lag issues), A Vaio PC, my PSP on infrastructure mode and my DS with no problems.

      The main thing with the DS is that it wont support WPA2, just regular WPA. Just play with the setting and it will work flawlessly.

      I definetly think this router is a great value for the money and definetly stack up with other pricier models. This surely looks ugly and the GUI is even uglier but this gets the job done at half the price.

    • Randall 10:57 am on December 26, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I’m trying to get my F5D7230-4 version 7000 to work with the XBOX 360 wireless adapter. The Xbox sees the Belkin and connects but it fails the IP test. I have DHCP inabled, but it just can’t seem to get the Belkin to give up an IP. I’m using Comcast and don’t have a static IP or have to enter any passwords to connect. I updated the firmware from .05 to .10 and it seems to stay connected to my ISP more consistantly. Can anyone tell me how to get this thing to work with the Xbox 360 adapter? At this point I don’t know who to hate, Belkin or Microsoft.

    • Massieko 4:26 am on January 23, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Hey I just picked up a Belkin F5D7230Ttt4 and like the rest of you I couldn’t turn on UPNP and was getting frustrated as it messed up my bittorrent. Through IE I got it enabled rather than firefox but still it seems I have connection issues. it seems rare to have everything working online as it should.
      Say I can browse the net and be on MSN Messenger but bittorrent will be down.
      Or I can’t browse but bittorrent will work as well as MSN Messenger.
      Any of those variants but not usually all at once.
      I just bought it because my old Dlink 604 kept disconnecting and not reconnecting and now I’m still having connection issues with the brand new router. I’m getting really frustrated with the crummy connections.
      With what it looks like the majority are saying here is this router sucks. Should I take it back and get a new one or should I just reconfigure this one?
      Either way, How should I reconfigure it or what would be a good replacement that won’t pull my pockets inside out?
      Thanks!

    • cloudrainstar 11:59 pm on January 31, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      To enable UPnP on the router using FireFox, you have to use the “Apply Changes” button above it (The one used for configuring NAT Enable/Dsiable).. They had the buttons reversed on the UI for some reason.

    • brainwreckedtech 3:15 am on February 1, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!

      Someone please comment and let us know if that works. From what I remember of this router’s interface, they had several sections on one page, the UPnP being one of them. I’m taking it that cloudrainstar is saying to use the Apply Changes button for the section above.

    • SaintCharcoal 3:46 am on February 7, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I also recently purchased this (F5D7230-4 Ver 7) router. Installed flawlessly and I did not need the install cd :-). Replaced old Barricade router with this one. Seems to be working fine for me, for now. BTW, there are POS in every brand.

    • AfteRShocK 12:10 pm on February 22, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I also have this router and i am having problems enabling my UPnP. when i click apply i get the error ” Error Password Length( Should > 3 char )”

      my password is also greater than 3 characters.

      can anyone help?

    • blindbull1 11:31 pm on February 28, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      i got it to work perfectly except for xbox 360 i need to hook 2 up and one cant connect when the other is in there

      • Anonymous 2:12 pm on October 17, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        I have a the same exact problem, i tried making a password though, and it still gave me the error =/

    • Johnnooo 5:02 pm on March 18, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      1. AfteRShocK Says:

      February 22, 2008 at 12:10 pm

      I also have this router and i am having problems enabling my UPnP. when i click apply i get the error ā€ Error Password Length( Should > 3 char )ā€

      my password is also greater than 3 characters.

      can anyone help?

      i can help you there. you have to type in your password at the top and type in a new password then you can do all the other stuff for the Settings Tab

    • AntiBelkin000 5:09 pm on March 21, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I too own a pos belkin version 6002. I have problems maintaining a connecton with my Xbox 360, can’t connect wirelessly with my psp, and currently can’t login to my router at all. I am currently shopping for a new router, and definately not getting a Belkin!!

    • Anonymous 3:51 pm on March 25, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      belkin is crapp done my head in will never again buy a belkin router

    • Javier Morales 5:04 pm on March 30, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I own this stupid router and I am throwing it in the trash right now. I changed 2 months ago to a D-link (N) and its working flawlessly. I was searching here to see if I could survive this router but it seems not. Piece of crap.

    • John 11:36 pm on April 24, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      ok, so i bought this belkin router a while back and after about two months of being cut off half way between downloads, i decided to go back and trade it for a new one. The new one was even worse. I would hook up the network cables and the internet would never make it past the router. I can directly put the internet into my computer and it works just fine. Then i try and put it in my router and it never picks up the signal. I highly don’t recommend this product!

    • Sion 7:13 am on May 30, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Staying at a friends and when we both try to access our secure work VPN (same), the 1st to access has no problems, however the 2nd to connect forces the 1st connection to terminate. 
       
      I’ve tried changing the channel from Auto to set channels through the URL http://192.168.2.1 but no joy? 
       
      Is there a default restriction on 2nd VPN’s/secure connections? I was thiniking about creating unsecure static IP through the admin, but am cautious to try, in case the thing stops working altogether – bless…. 
       
      Any ideas?

    • Eddy 3:57 am on July 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      WOW. Pretty much everyone has been having problems with this router. I gues I’m one of the very few lucky ones. I use my router to connect one desktop, one laptop, two PSPs, a Nintendo DS, my Linksys Wireless Print Server, and my Netflix Player by Roku wirelessly; I also have my PS2 connected via Ethernet cable. I haven’t tried them all at the same time, I doubt it will be able to handle all the connections at once, but so far while having at least my Netflix Player, desktop, and PS2 on and accessing the internet at the same time, it has worked perfectly well.

      I have the same router, but it’s version 6000. Maybe that’s the ok working version? I haven’t tried any of the advanced features such as the UPnP, and I guess I’d be considered a “newbie” since I used the CD it came with to install and set it up even though I only really needed the CD to set up the WEP key with a 128bit encryption.

      As far as the updates, I also had an extremely difficult time searching for the compatible update to my router, and so I googled it and found a page that contained my routers firmware update as well as the other versions of the router. The link is at the bottom, if it helps anyone. Now whenever it checks for updates automatically, it actually works!

      I’ve had it for almost a whole year, and it still hasn’t been giving me any problems. I am however thinking about upgrading to either a wireless-N router from Belkin or just getting a Time Capsule from Apple. Mine works great for me, hope you can figure how to make yours work for you also!

      http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en&aid=5027

    • Jay 6:53 pm on July 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      try updating to fireware 9.01.07 since then have had no problems getting uPnP to enable and it stays enabled and no other problems that i can see. and to verify jmy Playstation 3 tested the connection and says UPnP available

    • Anonymous 11:27 pm on July 12, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks to this page I was able to figure this out and get UPnP enabled.

      First off, same story kept reverting to disabled. So I checked the firmware and installed the 9.01.07 update. That made things worse, as after the update I kept getting the Password Length error whenever I hit Apply Changes. After reading through the comments here, I:

      1. Typed in my old password and a new password in the password fields at the top.

      2. Without applying changes yet, I clicked “enable” in the UPnP section.

      3. Clicked the “Apply Changes” button ABOVE the UPnP section (in the NAT section).

      Magically, that worked, and the change held. This router was truly designed by morons.

      • another anon 4:42 pm on August 3, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        i had no password set at all, so managed to get the upnp enabled just by steps 2 and 3 above.

        if yu hover over each button yo will see they are labelled, from top to bottom, form 0, form 1 , form 2, form 4, form 3, form 5

        ie botton 3 and 4 are the wrong way round,

        looks like they swapped around 2 buttons in error……

        if you press enable under upnp you run the script for nat enabling and vise versa..

        so people have been phoning tech support and belkin either are not aware of this, or refuse to disclose the obvious error.

      • MICHAEL 6:21 am on January 17, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Oh my god!!! You are a life-saver. I can’t believe that worked but it worked for me as well. What a retarded router. Note to self the internet is a wonderful resource and 2. NEVER BUY FROM BELKIN AGAIN! Thanks man!!!

    • Yev 8:55 pm on July 21, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      If you don’t value your time and love technology on a trivial level – go ahead and buy the G. I went through two of them (silly me thought the first one was just a glitch) and I testify that Belkin G router is by far the worst piece of electronic equipment I have ever purchased. You ask why? The list is long, but so I don’t just generalize, here is one for you.

      I power it up and it sits and blinks with power LED. This blinking never stops. None of the built-in default services work (DHCP, etc). You can’t even connect to it hard wired with hard coded IP. “Reset to Factory Defauls” button doesn’t do anything even if you hold it down for two minutes. The best part – it is not even six months old.

      My advice – spend a little bit more and get something not quite as crappy, even Linksys would do better, I am sure. Like the old sign you see at a gas station – Pay now or you will pay more later.

    • Dee 12:12 pm on July 22, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      In 5 words: What a piece of crap!!!
      I have spent over 12 hours in the last week on the phone with Belkin tech support and they’ve done nothing but run me around in circles performing the same test again and again.
      After the first 8 hours with tech support (the tech guy even made me test my wireless connection to another network b/c they kept on insisting it was a problem with my computer – which is total bs b/c it’s a brand new computer), they said they would send me a new one if I sent it my old one. Well, I did that and I’m still having problems with the new one!
      Last night, I ran the CD (because I wanted to make sure it wasn’t anything I was doing) and I could connect with the ethernet cord, but could not connect wirelessly, so I called tech support again. They ran me through the same tests AGAIN – but by the end of the two plus hour phone call I couldn’t even connect with the ethernet cord – so I was worse off than when I called them to start!!!
      I am so annoyed with them. I might try to return the one Belkin sent me to Wal-Mart to try to get a store credit (hopefully they will since they do sell that crappy product there) and buy one that will actually work.
      What a total piece of crap.

    • avade 4:16 pm on August 8, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I can’t set up Static Ip on WAN because it’s 192.168.1.81 and it’s show me alert “Error: Private IP address”. Radiobutton in wep wont’t switch on ASCII || 128 bit.
      After 3 hours googling about setting static IP on this router i understand that way out is modify Javascript by Firebug. It works well.
      (apologise my english)

    • gl7 12:49 pm on August 17, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Thx avade for the tips, but i tried have fail to master the firebug.

      A more easier way is:

      Can’t set WPA-PSK on DI-524 D-Link Router?

    • Stu 8:41 am on August 30, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Hey,

      I’ve had this router for a couple of years and didn’t have any problems at all, although it has recently started cutting out randomly, especially with the 360 which seems to shut down the router every time I quit a game. Very strange. I guess I actually got lucky with my router (as I’ve had no other problems with it) but it looks like it’s time to upgrade. I’m avoiding Belkin next time too!!

    • ed 5:37 pm on September 27, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      had this router for about 3 years now – use it with:

      – desktop (wireless)
      – laptop (wireless)
      – vonage VOIP phone (wired)
      – wii (wireless)

      it runs all of them like a champ!

    • GaryDude 11:08 pm on October 3, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I bought the F5D7230-4 v7000 last fall and it was a total pain to set up, never wanted to save the setting properly, but after a few hours I finally got everything right. It worked fine for months…suddenly the last few weeks it would repeatedly drop the internet connection…up and down.
      I checked for new firmware, it was at 9.01.05
      I flashed to 9.01.10 and so far it’s been working really well, I guess I’ll keep my fingers crossed šŸ˜‰

    • im666 9:01 am on October 17, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      its a browser issue, the upnp thing

      i hade the same prob until i tried internet explorer

    • tom 10:21 pm on October 30, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      This router is an absolute disgrace, as is belkin and their tech support. I got the exact same error when trying to update the firmware. I now get that error whenever i try to log on to the router. Belkin doesnt care. So ill throw it in the bin =]

    • SmoothJay 1:50 pm on November 13, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I’ve had this router for about 3 years now, albeit version 6002. At first it worked amazing, however it slowing started to have intermittent problems. I just dealt with it as an occasional restart wasnā€™t wasting too much of my time, however just recently will not receive a connection from my modem, although a direct connection to my PC works great. My warranty is expired and I donā€™t think I would want to relive the experiences anyway so Iā€™m going to move on to bigger better things, I have a small home network with 3 PC’s, XBOX360, PS3, and a PSP any recommendations??

      Thanks

    • PLZ HELP 6:29 pm on November 13, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      [Editor Edit] Making a post in all-caps screaming for help and swearing up a storm will get you nowhere. Read the article and read the comments. Without doing the exact math, I’d say this router fails for about 90% of the people that use it, and tech support fails for anyone that tries it.

    • Matthew Wallace 11:07 pm on November 29, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I would recommend that no one buy a Belkin product.
      I have this router and I cant enable UPnP either it gives me this error “Error Password Length( should > 3 char )” What does that mean? I also have a USB wireless adapter that doesn’t work at all. It randomly disconnects and comes up unrecognized by the computer, and the software it comes with is horrible. I will never buy a Belkin product again.

    • Matthew Wallace 11:17 pm on November 29, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks to this comment I was able to enable UPnP. Hopefully it actually works.

    • icantsmell 4:20 am on December 15, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      I am using the router now. I was wondering if anyone knew if you could flash this with tomato or if there is any other open source firmware for use with belkins?

      Most times you can blame it on a pebkac error or a id10t error.

    • Rob 6:50 am on December 15, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks for the UPnP help! šŸ™‚

    • rick 10:21 pm on December 23, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      done with belkin. for the past few weeks i’ve had more dropouts than a 70’s highschool. i’m not some tech geek, but i’m not a newbie and this thing sucks, 3 sessions with tech support – i now speak full punjabi and hindi now, and nothing works, 3 email sessions with tech support and all i did was waste paper and ink. all in all each time they all said the same thing – firmware update, re-set and you will be very very fine. well things arent very very fine. there are some other issues but arent worth mentioning if the most basic function of the machine doesnt work why waste time with other items. wife said i was getting a linksys for christmas so i can wait. after this i’m gonna shred this thing in the garbage disposal and mail it back to belkin – with my regards of course

    • james 11:04 am on January 9, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Hello, I have the Belkin Wireless G router in question since July. I bought it on sale at Walmart for $25. And contrary to what your blog said, I popped in the CD, and it has worked fine for me ever since. I have had no problems with it. I have a Playstation 3, a Playstation 2, PSP, a Laptop PC, a Gameboy DS, and my desktop PC. And all have worked just fine through the router. I had no problems with the setup. Maybe I am a noob, but I think you should have tried the CD. Its kinda dumb to skip the CD when installing new hardware.

      [Editor’s reply: Actually, you best bet is to always throw away the CD and download drivers yourself as the drivers will be up-to-date and won’t come with crapware, but I digress. You don’t need a driver for a router, so the only purpose for an installation CD for a router is to guide people who don’t know what they’re doing and to install crapware utilities that usually do little more than advertise the manufacturer’s name. It’s great that you’re not having the connection issues that other people here are. But I bet that (1) you were using IE, and (2) you might have a different hardware revision (mine was v7000).]

    • TechnoHippy 4:01 am on January 11, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks to Anonymous and Mathew Wallace for checking. This solution also works for me although I didn’t do the password bit. I just selected enable UPnP and then applied the changes by selecting the box above (In the NAT section) and hey-presto, UPnP is stored as enabled.

    • OnOffPT 8:13 pm on February 8, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I had the same uPNP problem but I figured it out when I saw the onmouseover link address. Check for all options in that page and you will see:

      Time and Timezone
      javascript:document.forms[1].submit()

      Remote Management
      javascript:document.forms[2].submit()

      NAT Enabling
      javascript:document.forms[4].submit() ### SWAPED ###

      UPNP Enabling
      javascript:document.forms[3].submit() ### SWAPED ###

      Auto Update firmware Enabling
      javascript:document.forms[5].submit()

      So when I saw that I found that was just a error in the HTML page of the router. However, It took a couple of hours to find that. I should have reported that to Belkin when I found the solution (long time ago maybe 2006).

      Anyway, now I am trying to flash it with DDWRT or something more flexible that supports external SSH and no-ip like services which is a must have for me.

      Cheers šŸ™‚

    • Beginner 7:30 pm on February 15, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Hellow, I bought ( by chance ) Belkin router a fiew days ago (13.feb.2009).
      ( hardware revision is v7000)
      I can give it back to the shop – it is still in box I didn’t unpack it)
      I read all on these site and I don’t know what I ought to do?!
      (I’m beginner)
      Buy it or give it back and buy the another one but not Belkin.
      (Which firm?)
      (I’d like to build small home network – connect 2-desktop and laptop and in the future connect VOIP and internet)

    • customerNY 6:23 pm on February 20, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      cloudrainstar ā€” January 31, 2008 #

      Your post is very helpful to me. I solved the problem of UPnP setting.

    • pixel-pusher 1:55 am on February 22, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      FSD7230-4 v6000 (sticker says 6002)
      Indeed, it seems this router was designed by morons. “Cannot connect to the firmware information server please double check the wan connection.” I lost precious hours of my life today trying to update firmware and access basic functions, such as wireless on/off. Growing frustrated, I started taking the router to pieces. I had mashed the reset button so hard and long, I couldn’t reach it with a pen. I raked a screwdriver tip over several rows of leads, powered on, saw [sp]arcs. This probably didn’t do any good. I held the reset button more than a minute, as another poster (yes, in another forum!) suggested. I tried almost everything, plugged and unplugged. Then I noticed… the router was UNPLUGGED from my computer, yet I was cycling through the same sad circuit of screens… 
       
      And I’m going to cut off the rest of the comment after that. Treating your router like a 5-year treats their toys NEVER helps your situation. And it’s impossible to go through the router’s web admin interface if the ethernet cable between your computer and the router is unplugged. I smell troll — almost as if the poster thinks everyone here has no clue what they’re doing and all they need to do is make sure everything is plugged in. Consider this a warning — if only because it’s still a plausible, legit post.

    • Will H. 8:20 pm on March 1, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      YESSS!!!!!!! The comment below worked like a charm for enabling UPnP!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

    • rajendra 2:05 pm on March 5, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I bought a belking wireless router F5D7230-4_UK_8.00.16.

      I am able to connect to my workplace VPN when I directly connect my laptop directly to the modem without any issues.

      But when I connect the modem to the Wireless router , and my laptop connects to the internet using wifi. Now if I connect to the VPN, the VPN is disconnecting in 3-4 minutes.

      I am using windows VPN connection.

      When I put my system in the DMZ , the vpn is not getting disconnected every 3-4 minutes. But I am facing very low browsing speed.

      help me solve this issue.

    • Gun 1:15 pm on March 20, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks to this post I was able to save ~58.5 minutes of my time. After the first uPnP error I immediately went to the internets for help and, luckily, found this page.

    • Dave Shaw 8:37 am on July 1, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I have a Belkin F5D7230-4 also and am trying to change my time zone from US & Canada to UK but am getting this ” Error Password Length( should > 3 char ). I feel the time zone is affecting my online play on my Xbox as im getting a lot of slow play(on Fifa).

      Anyone know a way round this?

    • S.Ysane 12:28 am on July 16, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I have problems with my Belkin Wireless G router too. NAT problems to be specific. I heard this is not uncommon to come across. I’ll never buy a Belkin product again. Nor would I refer a friend. Belkin can just take all their products and bury them in a desert in Nevada for all I care. Just like they did with all those extra copies of E.T. for Atari.
      [Ed. note] I don’t think Belkin buried those ET cartridges. (Isn’t semantics fun?) Also, thanks for bringing up bad childhood memories. šŸ™‚

    • Imran 1:46 pm on September 8, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      WooooW, finally I am able to make UPNP work on this router. After searching all over the web I found this forum and figured the problem. I was using Mozilla Firefox to make such changes, every other tab setting be saved but not for the UPNP. Thanks everyone ………!

    • daveq 10:18 pm on November 29, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Yep you have to put in current pass , new pass , and new pass comfim then enable UPNP then apply changes under PNP button should work ENJOY

    • Larry B. 9:41 pm on December 16, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I won the belkin F5D7230-4 prior to reading about all the issues here. I seem to have the CD to add it to my computer but after browsing through the book etc, I find it does not show the VISTA data base as one of the useable systems. Prior to trying to set it up I thought I would see if any one on this web site knows if it is possible. Thanks for any help

    • Larry B. 2:44 pm on December 18, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks daveq,

      By pass i assume password. I bought off ebay do I have to get a password from who sold it to me? Thanks again

    • Nate 11:05 pm on January 11, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I bought the newest Belkin Wireless G router on the market and wasted 3 days of my life, along with a 64 minute phone call to Belkin Tech support and was still unable to get my Mac laptop to connect to the internet using the wireless Airport.

      I went back to Best Buy and exchanged/upgraded to the new Linksys Wireless G router. Within 4 minutes I had set up my new router, secure network and was able to connect to the internet wirelessly.

      I’ve had Belkin wireless routers in the past and have always had issues with them. Never again will I purchase a Belkin wireless router. Ever.

    • jajs 7:46 pm on January 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      router sucks!!. model 7001. overheated very fast, internet disconnections and wifi range? so terrible. i hate this router. worst ever

    • Ewthor 7:47 am on January 19, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Worst epic fail ever, Belkin for the loss

      Save yourselves all the headache give the router to someone you hate and advertise everywhere possible to never ever in all your life ever buy another **lkin product again. EVER

      Belkin routers, wireless adapters – 40+ US
      Belkin service – Depends on product
      Belkin customer service – 0

      Belkins epic fail across all business levels – PRICELESS

      EVER I SAY – NEVER EVER

    • gv 6:09 am on November 28, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I just got one. belkin-f5d7234-4 (built in antenna, no external antenna). Guess what??? My router says this is the model. But belkin’s website has a different image for the same model (with external antenna) My friend has the one with external antenna, but belkin’s site says its model number is belkin-f5d7234-4., which should be belkin-f5d7230-4

      take a look at it.
      http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=136493
      and
      http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=459553

      Now I am confused, what model I originally have.

    • JB 7:31 pm on February 5, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Hi all,

      I have a Belkin F5D7230-4 v9 router and I have had nothing but trouble when trying to use it for gaming. I have an Xbox 360 connected to it aswell as 3 PCs (which work fine) but it’s with the Xbox that problems occur. Basically, from what I can understand, the NAT settings are too strict, but there is no obvious way of changing this? And before you ask, I have tried putting the XB’s IP into the DMZ, Port-Forwarding and UPnP. None of these have worked. I have now been instructed to update my routers firmware, but of course, because nothing is ever simple, that doesn’t work either. I’m tinking of just getting a new router, and doing away with Belkin. Can anyone suggest any routers that actually work properly? I’ve heard that most NetGear and Linksys routers are good, but can anyone confirm this?

      Thanks.

    • Adrian 8:13 am on October 3, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Four years later someone thanks you for this entry and swears that it will kill all Belkin products and employees he will find. Of course it was not my decision to use a belkin router, I am not insane, but I rented an apartment and the owner was using this miserable brand. Until my Netgear router will arrive I have to find a way to enable UPnP for my PS3 and also find a way to stop disconnecting from WAN every 30-40 minutes. I am considering to make a small video where I smash and burn the router may will bring some joy for the ones tortured in this horrible way. Needless to say I was using the latest firmware.

      • BrainwreckedTech 6:57 pm on October 4, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        While I’m sure it was said in hyperbole rather than earnest, it’s still a bad idea to say you’ll kill people. Especially with the half-baked laws we have nowadays concerning cyber-bullying. Besides, not ALL of them were responsible for this tripe. Just the ones that made the hardware choice and the ones that did QA (if any).

        But if it tickles your fancy any, set up a web site for donations of non-working Belkin F5D7230-4 routers that people got stuck with. Take some suggestion on possible mutilation scenarios of said hardware. Record the results of said mutilation. ??? Profit.

    • Euhill 2:32 pm on June 11, 2012 Permalink | Reply

      I have a Belkin F5D7230-4 ver. 6002. It is a pain for a Windows PC to connect to this router after it has just been booted up, brought out of hibernation or standby. In order to get a Windows machine to connect to this router you have to reset it (I usually just pull the power cord and plug it back in). Three different laptops have been used with this router all with the same problem. Two of them ran Win XP and the other ran Win 7. I have no idea of what the wi-fi chipset for the Win 7 machine is but the two XP machines are Intel Proset and Broadcom BCM4306. Now here comes the real interesting part. For about six months I used Linux Mint 11 Katya on the machine with the Broadcom wi-fi chipset while using the same Windows drivers in Linux by way of Ndiswrappers that I was using in XP. With Linux being used on that machine, I had zero problems connecting to the router at all while the Windows machines were still having issues. It’s definately not a wi-fi driver issue but an OS specific issue concerning this router. I wonder what Linux is doing different from Windows?

    • sevendecadesofme 11:25 am on January 6, 2014 Permalink | Reply

      I have v 9 and keep having interconnectivity problems with it at random; I now have to reboot it daily.

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